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The NRA versus The Doctors: A Psychiatrist’s Take On an Explosive Issue

By Susan Kweskin | April 5, 2011

Had the National Rifle Association had its way and Bill 432 had been voted into law in Florida, physicians would have been prohibited from asking their patients whether they have access to firearms.1 That bill, the details of which can be read here--ww.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2011/0432/BillText/Filed/HTML--would have made it a felony to ask about access to guns or even to include details about such access in a patient’s medical record. Perpetrators would have been imprisoned for up to 5 years and/or fined $5 million.

According to Psychiatric News, the NRA introduced Bill 432 into the Florida House and Senate in an effort to “prevent intrusion” into the constitutional right to bear arms.2

An article in the March 29, 2011 Sunshine News reports that an apparent compromise has now been reached between the backers of the bill and the Florida Medical Association, which strongly opposed it. Under that compromise, questions about gun ownership would generally be permissible—as long as the physician doesn’t “harass” the patient and doesn’t include information about guns into the medical record without "good reason." According to that article, both the Florida Medical Association and the NRA now support the measure.

The NRA appears to be maneuvering similar bills in other states, so the issue may become one of national importance. It is a legislative battle that could affect all physicians—-but it has serious forensic and liability implications for psychiatrists in particular.

Psychiatric Times editor emeritus, Ronald Pies, MD, offers these thoughts on this issue. Dr Pies is professor of psychiatry at SUNY Upstate Medical University, Syracuse NY; and Tufts University School of Medicine in Boston.

“It is the physician's moral, legal, and clinical responsibility to inquire into all relevant risk factors related to a patient's safety, both with respect to self-harm and potential harm to others. The possession of firearms in the home—legal or otherwise—markedly increases the risk of both gun-related suicide and homicide, as well as unintentional gun-related harm to others.

The constitutionality of legal possession of firearms is emphatically not the issue here. The issue is the physician’s professional right and duty to inquire into risk factors for harm to self or others, including but not limited to possession of firearms. Indeed, failure to so inquire—particularly in cases involving suicidal or homicidal individuals seen in emergency room settings—would pose a serious threat to the safety and well-being of both the patient and, potentially, society. It would also expose the physician to tremendous liability in the event a patient with violent tendencies left the medical setting and inflicted harm upon him/herself or others.

No law that has a chilling effect on pertinent medical assessment of risk factors for violence should be tolerated by any state or any citizen. I would urge all legislators to ensure that any law written to protect the privacy of patients includes language stating that, ‘Nothing in this legislation shall be construed as restricting a physician’s right and duty to carry out a thorough and professional assessment of the patient's safety vis-a-vis self and others. No liability shall be attached to a physician's inquiries re: firearms possession, when such inquiry occurs in the course of the professional medical assessment of a patient's safety.’”
 

 

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by Susan Ward | April 26, 2011 10:28 AM EDT

There are thousands of Home Health Nurses, Physical and Occupational therapist, and Clinical Assistants who visit the homes of patients who are homebound. They need the attention of health care staff. I am a Psychiatric Nurse who did Psychiatric Home Health patients for 5 yrs. It is a standard of care to ask the patient if there are firearms in the home. This is to prevent a mentally ill patient from hurting a family member, member of the community, or self. If the response is yes, which it usually is in Texas then you ask that all firearms be removed from the house and placed in a safe place where the patient does not have access. This is clearly not a violation of the patients rights, rather it is to protect the lives of anyone they come in contact with. This bill is ignorant of how many health care workers would be put at risk, hurt or killed.

by Eric Dickhaus | April 22, 2011 11:20 AM EDT

This attempt to "protect" second amendment rights tramples mightily on the first amendment! Organizations like the NRA that exist as advocacy groups for particular interests (in this case gun ownership) have no competence in matters of medical practice, and should not be allowed to make policy that affects the delivery of healthcare. They are welcome to express their opinions and concerns, but a legislature that takes up such a bill without adequate consultation with health care providers, not to mention a clear understanding of the benefits and risks of the legislation on the population is being extremely irresponsible. I don't have any data (and I doubt the NRA does, either) about the number of legitimate gun owners whose disclosure of their gun ownership or its inclusion in their medical records has resulted in a problem for them later, but I am certain it is negligeable. On the other hand, that the presence of firearms in the house raises suicide risk substantially has been shown in numerous peer reviewed studies whose results have been replicated consistently. Following this lead, there is practically no topic that could theoretically be legislated as off limits to physicians;it is a case of fanatisiscm, and I hope that other state medical associations reject out of hand similar proposals.

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References:
1. Doctors go to jail for asking patients about guns in the home. http://psychiatrist-blog.blogspot.com/2011/03/doctors-to-go-to-jail-for-asking.html. Accessed April 1, 2011.
2. Guldin B. Bill would put silencer on gun talk between doctors, patients. Psychiatric News. March 4, 2011. http://pn.psychiatryonline.org/content/46/5/16.3.full. Accessed April 1, 2011.
3. Pies R. Psychiatrists should be advocates for gun control laws. Psychiatric News. 2011; 46:6
http://pn.psychiatryonline.org/content/46/7/6.1.full?sid=65a8cf78-d29b-494a-9c50-2e69b020d47a. Accessed April 1, 2011.


 
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